Viktor Bout – the so-called “Merchant of Death” and the socalled
“Lord of War”
, and the true causes of the post-9/11
persecution against him.
Victor Bout (wearing brown prison T-shirt) and the author of these lines (in a black shirt on the background)
in the Criminal Court in Bangkok during one of the last extradition hearings on Victor’s case. The man in
glasses is Thilo Thielke – Der Spiegel’s reporter. Photo courtesy Kurt Pelda, another German-speaking
reporter. This is the only shot I was captured together with Victor. The photo is published to satisfy multiple
silly requests where some folks demanded “proof” that I indeed know Victor Bout. Yes, I indeed know him.
Perhaps I know him even better than he knows himself…
Below: the author of these lines with Victor’s wife Alla and Victor’s Thai lawyer – Mr. Lak Nittiwatwicharn.
I used to always postpone writing this Chapter, because the extradition case against Victor Bout (who is
my personal friend, after all) was still with the criminal court here in Bangkok, and I did not want to
jeopardize Victor’s position in the court of law by publishing such a thing. But since he finally lost the case
in the Appeals’ court and is now in New York, there is nothing to lose anymore. I did not have enough
time to finalize this Chapter, but since I was in a hurry to publish the new edition of my free book I have
got a compromise idea. Instead of writing this Chapter, I place here my recent interview regarding Victor
Bout which I gave to another friend of mine – brave investigating journalist Daniel Estulin, well known for
his anti-NWO works and particularly for his bestselling books “The True Story of the Bilderberg Group”
and “The Shadow Masters”.
I place the interview “as is” – as appeared on Daniel’s web site:
I hope you find this information intriguing enough and a good substitute for the missing Chapter.
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Dimitri Khalezov is a former Soviet commissioned officer of the “military unit 46179”,
otherwise known as “the Special Control Service” of the 12th Chief Directorate of the Defense
Ministry of the Soviet Union. He has agreed to this exclusive interview and it is our pleasure to
be able to offer readers of www.danielestulin.com another quality first. Dimitri is a crucial piece
of the puzzle in the case of Victor Bout. It is safe to say that had it not been for Dimitri´s
dedication to helping Mr. Bout, his incorruptibility and brilliance, Victor, might very well have
found himself today behind bars in some high-profile American prison. Dimitri is the first man
to see Mr. Bout after his world famous arrest in Bangkok and he is the man who has given more
headaches to the United States government than anyone else in the world. Furthermore, Dimitri
Khalezov is the first person in the world to have uncovered the true reasons for the United States
government’s dogged pursuit of Victor Bout. Mr. Bout´s arrest is directly linked to 9/11, and Mr.
Khalezov, because of his unique vantage point as a former member of the Soviet “atomic” and
later “nuclear” intelligence says that he knew about the in-built so-called “emergency nuclear
demolitions scheme” of the Twin Towers as long back as early 1980´s, while serving in the
Soviet Special Control Service.
How did you get involved in the case?
Both Victor Bout and I are Russian. We are both former Soviet military officers. Moreover, we
actually come from the same village. I think, these are good enough reason to try and help him
with his case, considering that Victor was arrested in Bangkok and I happened to have been
living in Bangkok at the time of his arrest. Furthermore, I have extensive experience with the
Thai legal system, especially when you consider that the United States government has tried to
have me arrested and extradited to America too in connection with 9/11. It happened back in
2003. So, I have enough motivation to try to help Victor.
In March 2008, Victor Bout was Osama bin Laden´s equal as far as notoriety on the
world´s stage. How did you manage to see Victor Bout on the very first day of his detention
Under the Thai Criminal Procedure any person under arrest has his or her undeniable right to be
visited by friends while under arrest. Victor Bout, despite being the so-called “Merchant of
Death” and the so-called “Lord of War”, was not excluded from the provisions of the Thai
Criminal Procedure Code. I simply came to the police station where he was detained and
requested to visit my friend. They had to let me see him as much as it might have pained them.
In fact, the police went out of their way to help. They seated both of us on a sofa in the corridor
and let us chat nicely. Usually they only allow visitors to talk to detained persons through bars of
a detention cage, but for Victor and me they made an exception to this rule.
Is there a link between your case, 9-11 and Victor Bout?
Apparently yes. I was wanted by the United States allegedly in connection with 9/11, and with
the 2002 Bali bombing (which was a mini-nuke bombing), while Victor Bout is apparently
wanted by the Americans in connection with 9/11 and in connection with the 2003 El-Nogal
bombing. Incidentally, El-Nogal is known to have been a mini-nuke bombing – at least known to
appropriate security officials. As you can see there are a lot of similarities.
Half-burned car in Bali – an unmistakable signature of a thermal radiation of an atmospheric nuclear blast.
Who are the main players: US and Bout’s camp?
It might appear that a certain alleged ‘Bout camp’ exists, it is a totally false impression. The socalled
‘Bout camp’ consists of Victor Bout, his wife, his brother, his mother, his daughter, me
(Dimitri Khalezov), a couple of Victor’s personal friends from the Soviet Union, his Thai lawyer
– Mr. Lak Nittiwatvicharn, his Russian lawyer, of course, Daniel Estulin, and, perhaps, a few
journalists who came to know Victor and his family during their investigation of the case. If you
can call this rag-tag army “Bout´s camp”, then yes, there are two main players – “Bout’s camp”
and the US camp. Aside from the US government, however, there are quite a few other powerful
players who have positioned themselves against Victor.
Who are these powerful players and why have we not heard anything about them?
First of all, the Russian Government (at least certain powerful individuals within the Russian
Government), and the Russian secret service.
What? Are you serious? You have just accused the Russian government of working against
Victor Bout when the entire world is convinced that had it not been for Putin and
Medvedev, Victor Bout, most likely would have been extradited to the United States a long
You will not be able to hear anything about them, because they are not so stupid as to show off.
They would rather show you something entirely opposite – that they are allegedly “helping”
Victor Bout. But make no mistake – from the very beginning of this unprecedented set-up, the
Russian side was heavily involved with the Americans in the entire operation in framing Victor
and in luring him to Bangkok. It was conceived and conducted by both – the Russian and the
American secret services working together. In addition to the Russians, other players were
involved as well. Primarily, the Israeli secret services – the Mossad and Sayaret Matkal. They
have keen interest in this case, too. It was demonstrated by the unprecedented Sayaret Matkal’s
involvement in the case of one of the FARC leaders - Raul Reyes and “his” weapon-grade
Uranium that was planted by “someone” around his camp in the Ecuadorian jungle. Don’t miss
this point – Raul Reyes was murdered on March 1, 2008, while Victor Bout was scheduled to be
lured to Bangkok on March 4, 2008, in direct connection with the FARC and Uranium affairs,
while all legal paperwork that requested the Thais to arrest him has been submitted to the Thai
side by the Americans in the last day of February – that is BEFORE the murder of Raul Reyes.
And, please, note that it was the Israeli Sayaret Matkal (a highly tailored organization that deals
exclusively with nuclear weapons of enemies and with nothing else but that) involved in the
actual murder of Reyes and in the “discovery” of “his” Uranium. Don’t miss to notice also that
Victor Bout arrived in Bangkok not alone, but in a strange company of his alleged “friend” – a
certain colonel from the Russian FSB, who was initially arrested with Victor and then strangely
released and sent back to Moscow on the first available flight. To understand how improbable it
is, try to imagine the following situation. Let´s say that a certain secret service (the French, for
example) arranged to lure Osama bin Laden to Paris, promising the Saudi terrorist that he will
meet in Paris with his Muslim brothers and in the meeting they will discuss how to demolish the
Eiffel Tower with a stolen Soviet mini-nuke. But Osama bin Laden arrives to the meeting in
Paris not alone, but accompanied by a certain colonel from the Taliban counter-intelligence
service who decided to travel together with Osama just for the occasion – to have a chance to see
the Louvre, and the Eiffel Tower (before it is nuked).
The French secret service arrests both – Osama bin Laden and the colonel from the Taliban.
Except that the French realize that the one they want is Osama bin Laden, and not the colonel
from the Taliban’s counter-intelligence who indeed came to Paris to see its attractions and who
simply kept his friend Osama bin Laden company on the flight to France´s capital. So, the
French police decide to release the colonel and send him back to Kabul on the next available
flight, detaining only Osama bin Laden, because ONLY he was the target of their stingoperation.
Does this version sound believable to you? Just as “believable” sounds the
explanation why the Thai police and the U.S. DEA so quickly released Victor Bout’s casual
companion – the FSB colonel – who strangely arrived with the infamous “Merchant of Death”
and “Lord of War” on the same plane and in the same taxi and checked into the same hotel, but
in reality did not want to help the latter to sell “portable anti-aircraft missiles” to the bloodthirsty
narco-dealers from FARC – he only wanted to see Bangkok and to have a chance to try
the famous Thai massage.
Of course, this FSB colonel arrived to Bangkok by “mistake”, so this “mistake” was promptly
corrected by the honorable and honest Thai police who quickly realized that the friend of the
“Merchant of Death” was innocent and sent him back home immediately. Do you believe this
nonsense? I don´t. At least four countries were heavily involved in Victor Bout´s frame up:
Russia, United States, Israel and Thailand. There is plausible evidence that other nations were
involved in this disgusting frame-up, but involved to a lesser extent than the abovementioned
four. It appears that the Danes, the Dutch and the Romanians were involved too; at least, it
appears so from the legal paperwork available in Victor’s case-file at the Thai Criminal Court.
The entire world has the impression that the Russian government and Russian Embassy in
Thailand have gone above and beyond the call of duty to help Mr. Bout? In fact, the United
States government has bitterly complained publicly about the apparent behind-the-scenes
pressure Putin and Company are allegedly applying on the Thais to release Mr. Bout.
Unfortunately, this is one of the biggest mistakes to think that the Russian Government is
allegedly involved in Victor Bout’s extradition case in the Thai court on the side of Victor.
Indeed, the “official line” in many hysterical publications in the Western and even in the Russian
press imply that the Russian officialdom is allegedly “trying hard to help Victor” as Victor
could, allegedly, implicate “certain Russian politicians” in some alleged “wrongdoings”.
This impression is somehow supported by the fact that Russian Embassy officials regularly
attended Thai court during Victor’s extradition case hearings, and also as a result of a number of
statements coming from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. But this leaves one with a false
impression. Russian Embassy officials visiting Victor Bout and attending court hearings are
nothing but a regular consular assistance to a Russian citizen; be it to a citizen named Victor
Bout or an unknown Sergei Ivanov.
That said, I can assure you that even though the Russian Consul attended every court hearing, the
Thai judges were not “pressured” by the Russian delegation. It is normal for consuls to attend
hearings of foreign defendants and the judges are used to it. So by no means the fact that the
Russian Consul has diligently performed his duties could be considered as a kind of an
“extrajudicial assistance” to the Defendant Victor Bout in the courtroom.
When it comes to the apparent statements of unflagging support made by the Russian Foreign
Ministry they should not mislead you either into believing that the Russian officials are allegedly
“helping Victor Bout”. They were not and are not helping him at all, but are rather doing their
best to harm his position in the Thai court. It sounds strange to a lay Westerner, but you have to
understand some peculiarities when it comes to the Russians. First of all, besides Putin,
Medvedev and Co., there are other political powers in Russia – so-called “patriots” led by
Vladimir Zhirinovsky, for example, or “communists”, just to mention a few. Some of the “old
Russians” sincerely believe that the United States government must not be allowed to arrest a
Russian citizen abroad, especially in a third country. Because if allowed to do so with impunity,
it will set a dangerous precedent. Today they dare to frame and arrest an alleged “Merchant of
Death” who knows no government secrets. But tomorrow, they might arrest a real colonel from
the Russian Strategic Missile Forces who decided to spend his holidays in Thailand. The United
States government can accuse this colonel of “planning to annihilate the United States as an
entity with a massive thermo-nuclear strike” and to demand his extradition to America. What´s
more, such a hypothetical accusation would in fact be correct – because such a colonel could
indeed plan to annihilate the US due to his service duties.
Please understand, a great majority of Russian citizens as well as Russian Armed Forces, are
extremely unhappy that the United States can arrogantly claim their alleged jurisdiction over
territories that are not part of the United States and they are especially annoyed when such
bullying directly affects Russian citizens. Medvedev, Putin and Company are aware of this and
they have to take it into account when making their public statements.
Hence the public pledges of support from the Russian Foreign Ministry which sound like they
really care about Victor Bout and his case in Thailand. But nobody should be fooled by these
tearful pledges of support. They are nothing but a publicity stunt. In reality, they are no more
harmful to the Americans and their cause than barking of stray dogs around the Criminal Court
in Bangkok. All these actions of the Russian Foreign Ministry are merely intended to appease
Russian population by creating an impression that the Russian Government allegedly “works for
Russia” and still “constitutes a challenge to the US hegemony in the world”. However, neither of
these is true in reality. Moreover, if the Russian Government did nothing at all to help Victor
Bout fight his extradition case in the Thai courts, he would have had a much better chance at
winning his case.
Does the United States want Victor Bout for being an arms merchant as he is portrayed by
the UN and US journalist Douglas Farah or is there more to his case?
In reality, Victor Bout is not wanted for being an alleged “arms merchant” as he is portrayed and
as he is perceived by the people who put more stock into a newspaper article than they do into
facts. If Victor was really wanted for what you suggested, then the Americans would not wait
until March 2008 to arrest him – they would have initiated criminal proceedings against Victor
Bout back in the ‘90s, or, at the latest, at the very beginning of the new millennium. The problem
is, Victor is NOT wanted for being the “arms merchant”, at least in the sense he is portrayed in
the infamous movie or described in the irresponsible UN report by a former United Nations
weapons inspector, Johan Peleman. Victor is wanted for something totally different, but,
perhaps, we will discuss that further in more detail.
How strong of a case does the United States government have?
From the judicial point of view, US government’s case is very weak and Victor could easily have
won it. Can you imagine that the accusers (US government) failed to bring to the Thai court even
a single “portable anti-aircraft missile” that Victor was alleged to have been illegally selling to
“the highest bidder”? But the main problem was that the Russian Government and the Russian
secret service did their best to harm Victor’s position in the Thai court, to force him to defend
himself in the wrong way from the judicial point of view, to make false promises that would dull
his vigilance, and, moreover, to deprive Victor of funds, so that he would have simply no money
to conduct his defense in the Thai court in an effective manner. If the Russian Government were
indeed concerned about Victor’s defense as believed by most people, then it would have at the
very least subsidize his legal expenses. It would be normal to expect for the Russian Government
to at least provide the best legal experts from the Russian side free of charge and contribute a
couple of millions US dollars to cover the legal expenses on the Thai side. At least, it is logical
to expect it. What is the two million US dollars for the government of a country with over 150
millions populations that sells gas and oil and brandishes nuclear weapons capable of destroying
the Earth a hundred times over? Such petty cash is a small price to pay for Mother Russia to
defend its famous citizen in such a notorious case, isn’t it?
But in reality not only the Russian Government did not pay anything either openly or covertly (in
disguise through a “private donation”) to Victor Bout and his family; the Russian secret service
did their best to force Victor’s brother and Victor’s wife into absolutely unnecessary expenses
that drove them into total bankruptcy. Instead of helping them financially, the Russian
Government indeed sucked out their last savings. If you also add that it was the Russian officials
who advised Victor to conduct his defense in the Thai court in the most wrongful manner and if
you add that one of Victor’s lawyer – a proven shill for the American DEA – was also
recommended by the Russian officials, you will understand the travesty and injustice and treason
involved. Let me say it again, the Russian Government, from the very beginning was secretly,
but very efficiently working with the Americans to get Victor Bout to the United States to stand
trial, and at the same time, to create an impression that Russia is still “great” and could still
“defend its citizens”.
Let´s go over the basic facts of the case. First of all, the Russian secret service managed to
convince Victor and his wife Alla, not to conduct the defense in the Thai court by proving the
fact that there were no actual portable anti-aircraft missiles available to be sold to the FARC.
Solely based on this evidence alone, the case should have been dismissed. The Russian officials
proposed, instead, to conduct the defense by proving to the Thai court that the case was allegedly
“political”, because the FARC is a political organization, the Communist party. This was a
suicidal method of defense if looking at the case through the eyes of a professional lawyer. By
proving that the case was “political” Victor automatically proved that he agreed with the
existence of the actual “case”, that is missiles and such. This case could have been easily won
by proving that there were “no case at all” and as such a non-existent “case” can not be
“political” because there was nothing to be “political”.
Instead, Victor and his wife agreed with the proposal of the Russian officials and limited the
defense in the Thai court by claiming that the case of dealing with the FARC was “political”
without challenging the actual “case” whatsoever. The most important point of the entire case –
that there was not even a single alleged “portable anti-aircraft missile” captured – was not voiced
in the court-room. And no questions have been asked by Victor’s lawyer from the witnesses of
the prosecution as to WHY the arresters failed to go after the alleged “missiles” in order to seize
them and to deprive the so-called “Merchant of Death” of his deadly arsenal. Therefore, from the
way Victor´s lawyer conducted the actual defense, it appeared to the judges that Victor was
indeed selling the missiles, but the matter to consider was only if the FARC was a terrorist
organization (as claimed by the Americans) or a political one (as claimed by Victor). As you
may expect, the court eventually disagreed with such an interpretation and ruled that the case
was NOT political, while Victor and his then lawyer (who was a shill for the Americans) did
absolutely nothing to prove to the court that there were no case, no missiles, and no FARC –
instead of proving that so-called “FARC” was represented by the US citizens while the
“missiles” was merely a product of their sick imagination and existed only in their bogus
paperwork, Victor and his then lawyer managed to prove by default that the actual accusations of
the Americans had some grounds.
Secondly, the Russian secret service promised Victor and his wife that if Victor conducted his
defense in the Thai court in the abovementioned manner (by proving that the case was “political”
without challenging the actual claims and the total absence of any evidence of the Americans)
then the Russian Government would guarantee that Victor would win the case. As you may
expect this promise and this “guarantee” was just a cheap ploy invented by the Russian secret
service in order to blunt his vigilance and to ensure that Victor would lose his case in the Thai
court despite total absence of the alleged missiles and despite an absolute presence of abundant
evidence that the entire “case” was merely a frame-up by the American DEA.
Furthermore, Victor’s wife, at my insistence made a very efficient complaint against her
husband’s illegal detention (because the actual detention of Victor was indeed illegal due to
technicalities and during the entire extradition hearings in the Thai court Victor must have been
freed, and not behind bars). Submission of such a complaint by Victor’s wife caught all Victor’s
enemies – the Thais, the Russians and the Americans – virtually with their pants down. The
problem was that the detention of Victor was indeed technically illegal and he must have been
released immediately – the technicalities of the illegality of the detention were obvious, if not to
say self-evident, and were presented in the written complaint by Alla Bout in such a clear
manner that they could not have been challenged even by the best lawyers in the world. The only
way left to the judges was to consider the case and to rule to release Victor Bout from unlawful
custody and to continue the extradition hearings with him released from prison. Apparently, it
was not an option for the Russians, Americans and Thais who worked too hard to get Victor
arrested, thrown behind bars, and deprived of any income. But what could they do in this
situation? Unfortunately, they found a way out: the “trusted guys” from the Russian secret
service approached Victor’s wife and convinced her to voluntarily withdraw her complaint
against her husband´s illegal detention (claiming that it puts the Thai court in a difficult position
and the court does not like this at all – which was indeed true) in exchange for the deal: once the
complaint is withdrawn, the “grateful” Thai court would immediately rule to release Victor on
bail – as a kind of a “settlement” that allows everyone “to save face”.
Victor and his wife again put their faith in the Russian government and agreed to withdraw the
complaint. Except that the “grateful” Thai court never released Victor on bail as promised. This
is just another example of how the Russian officials actually “helped” Victor Bout. The list of
their “help” is very long, but I don’t want to make it too long and too boring. I would mention
that on the recommendation of the Russian secret service, Victor’s brother has paid U.S.
$120,000 for Victor’s bail, but the money was stolen, the bail has never been granted and the
money was never returned. Again, on the recommendation of the Russian secret service, Victor’s
brother paid $250,000 dollars allegedly for an “out of court settlement” whereas Victor would be
released before conclusion of the case. According to the promise of the Russian officials, if the
250 thousand USD were paid, Victor Bout will be freed by May 1, 2008. The money was paid as
demanded, but nothing happened in the Thai court – the case just continued and nobody bothered
to return the money or take responsibility for the false promise.
As a result of this despicable behavior on the part of the Russian officials, “Victor Bout’s camp”
as you call it, ran out of money to such an extent that when it became necessary to translate
several important court documents from Thai to English in order to understand what the Thai
witnesses said in court, Victor could not afford to pay the 2,000 USD for the translation and till
today, some of the important papers from the case-file remain only in Thai language. I hope this
is more than enough to establish how the Russian Government is actually “helping” Victor Bout
to lose his extradition case in the Thai court.
Then, why is the Russian government working against Victor Bout?
Because of the Russian, to be more exact the Soviet-made missile that hit the Pentagon on 9/11.
What? I think you better explain that and, please go slowly.
The Americans, understandably, demand from the Russians to find a fall guy or a patsy (or a
group of fall guys) who is/are responsible for the missile that was found in the middle of the
Pentagon. Considering that the missile was actually nuclear-tipped (with a half-megaton thermonuclear
warhead that is more than 25 times the size of the Hiroshima bomb) you can imagine that
the Americans are quite insistent with their demands to the Russians to find, at last, the culprit
and to surrender him to the US Justice.
The Pentagon immediately after being hit by the cruise missile before it wall was collapsed and before
lampposts were toppled to imitate “plane’s wings”.
It is indeed serious. But when it comes to the Russians, they can not admit the truth – that the
“Granit” missile with its thermo-nuclear warhead was stolen from the sunken “Kursk”
submarine, because Putin back in 2000 solemnly declared to the world that there were no nuclear
weapons on board of the sunken submarine.
What is a “Granit”?
The P-700 “Granit” missile (also known by its NATO classification as “Shipwreck” or “SS-N-
19” - where “N” apparently stands for “Navy”) is the most advanced Soviet-era Navy missile. It
is intended to be fired from submarines in submerged position and is primarily intended to
destroy the US aircraft-carrier battle-groups. This is a highly sophisticated and highly
“intelligent” missile. The “Granit” missiles could be used to strike battle-groups and other ship
orders while fired in swarms of 12 missiles in one salvo, but could be as well used in single shots
– fired against single naval targets, as well as against stationary ground targets (as was
demonstrated in the case of the Pentagon strike on 9/11). Each “Granit” missile weighs about 7
tons, has length of about 10 meters, could fly up to 625 km at the supersonic speed at 2.5 Mach.
Each missile is typically equipped with a standard “Navy-type” 500 kiloton thermo-nuclear
warhead; conventional warheads for this missile even though exist in theory, are never used in
reality – so that all without any exception “Granit” missiles in service are nuclear-tipped.
This missile deems to be totally indestructible, because NATO lacks any means to shot down
this missile even if they detect it in advance. In fact, it was demonstrated in the case of the
Pentagon attack on 9/11 – NORAD managed to detect the upcoming “Granit” missile at least 6
minutes before it struck the Pentagon. NORAD’s operational officers managed to ring the atomic
alert, scramble the so-called “Doomsday plane” in response, but were not able to prevent the
actual strike – the missile managed to successfully approach Washington DC and hit the wall of
the Pentagon despite being detected by NORAD 6 minutes in advance. Make you own
conclusions – as to the danger of this weapon. I would also like to note, that according to the
Soviet and Russian strategic plans, the submarines armed with the “Granite” missiles could be
used as a “back-up” option for the retaliatory nuclear strike against the United States (while the
primary role in such a strike belongs to strategic intercontinental- and submarine-launched
ballistic missiles, of course).
“Granit” missile in the factory.
For the reason of possible usage in the retaliatory strike the “Granit” missiles are also designed
to produce airbursts above the US cities – so they are equipped with special non-contact
detonators for such reason, in addition to the usual contact detonators. I should mention also that
the “Granit” missile has a very advanced inertial guidance system that also has a list of preloaded
most important NATO targets. While flying above the ocean the “Granit” missile will
scan and reconnoiter the operational theater and try to distinguish ship orders and especially
aircraft-carrier battle-groups and to select the most important targets in the ship orders and to
strike them in automated manner. If flying above the territory the missile will reconnoiter it too
and will try to detect the most important stationary targets by comparing their coordinates with
those pre-loaded in its warhead. Once encounter such targets the missile’s on-board computer
will immediately select the most important target by the order of priority and the missile will
strike it. So, once the missile was fired towards Washington D.C. it compared the two most
important targets – the White House and the Pentagon and “preferred” to strike the latter one as
being in its “opinion” the more important target. Perhaps I should mention that this is the most
heavily armored missile in the world – it is made from very thick steel and in fact it could be
compared with a flying tank or with a giant bullet. Due to its tremendous speed, weight and
strength of its body this missile managed to penetrate six capital walls of the Pentagon building
when it struck it on 9/11.
Actual penetration details demonstrated by the missile during the 9/11 Pentagon strike.
Ok, please continue.
You have to understand that now Putin can not afford to take his noble presidential words back
and to admit that he was outright lying to the world community and that all nuclear missiles from
the “Kursk” were indeed stolen. Some other solution is badly needed to meet the US demands
for the “culprit” behind the Pentagon attack. And this “solution” was eventually found. The
problem is that all “Granit” missiles, despite being made in the Soviet days, could only belong to
Russia and to no other former Soviet republic.
Can you prove this?
Absolutely. The ‘Granit” is the Navy missile; it is not used by anyone except the Navy. In the
Soviet Union there were four Navy fleets – the Arctic Fleet, the Pacific Fleet, the Baltic Fleet,
and the Black See Fleet. Out of the four Russia inherited in its entirety the three fleets – the
Arctic, the Baltic, and the Pacific ones. Only the Black See Fleet has been divided between
Russia and Ukraine. However, the “Granit” missiles were in service only on the Pacific Fleet and
on the Arctic Fleet; so such missiles could not have ended up in the hands of Ukrainians, even
theoretically. All the “Granits” must have been inherited by Russia alone. However, to shift
blame away from Russia for the Pentagon strike, the Russian officials had no chance than to
blame that some “Granit” missiles were allegedly a part of the Black See Fleet and for sometime
they were allegedly in the temporary possession of the Ukrainians during the turmoil caused by
the Soviet Union collapse and by the consecutive dividing of its property (nuclear weapons and
the Black See Fleet inclusive). For this reason the Russian secret service concocted a bogus
back-dated paper-work which “revealed” that one of the heavy cruisers of the Black See Fleet
was allegedly scheduled to be re-armed with the “Granit” missiles and for that reason in the last
years of the Soviet rule several “Granit” missiles were allegedly transferred to the Black See
Fleet and were kept there and eventually they allegedly ended up with the Ukrainians after the
break up of the Soviet Union. And, from these Ukrainians these “Granit” missiles were allegedly
“stolen” and thus ended up with the terrorists (who eventually fired one of such missiles into the
Pentagon on 9/11). This version is ridiculous because even if you imagine that several “Granit”
missiles were indeed kept in Ukraine, intended for the re-armament of that heavy-cruiser, as
claimed, these missiles would never be kept in storage with their nuclear warheads attached. In
accordance with the rules, in the Soviet Union, missiles were kept in one place, while the nuclear
warheads were kept in another location, moreover, under control of a different department of the
military. Only lay people who know nothing about the Soviet Armed Forces and their rules could
believe such a version that it was allegedly possible for the “reckless Ukrainians” to lose the
missiles and the nuclear warheads at the same time. The missiles with the attached nuclear
warheads could only be stolen from one place – from a submarine in service. However, it seems
that some responsible security officials believe (or “pretend to believe”) this ridiculous version
with the “Ukrainian trail” which seems to successfully exonerate the Russians.
In this case the Russians are not guilty at all. Some “bad guys” who stole the missiles from
Ukraine (and not from Russia) are allegedly guilty. Now they need the actual “bad guys”. Who,
do you think, fits the bill? You guessed it, the infamous “Merchant of Death” and the “Lord of
War”, thanks to the fact that his personality has been demonized long ago and everyone would
easily believe that it was indeed Victor Bout who sells not only weapons, but NUCLEAR and
even THERMONUCLEAR weapons to the highest bidder. That is exactly why the Russians and
the Americans got into this seemingly strange agreement – to frame Victor Bout. It is not so
strange in reality, if you try to analyze the actual circumstances – because both parties badly
need to close the Pentagon case and they simply can not find any one better than Victor Bout for
the role of the scapegoat who could sell such a missile to the terrorists. There is simply no one
else in the world who could fit this role.
Let´s move to Bout´s alleged partner in the FARC deal, Andrew Smulian, who was
arrested along with Victor. What happened to him?
The so-called “co-conspirator Smulian” was Bout´s former friend and a former business-partner.
But in this particular case, Smulian was a “co-conspirator” of the DEA agent-provocateurs who
framed Victor, rather than a Victor Bout “co-conspirator”. Unlikely you can be a “coconspirator”
to the one who is innocent. This is a clarification of terminology usage, if you don’t
mind me being pedantic with such a correction. Andrew Smulian was the one who visited Victor
in Moscow several times and presented him with business offers – particularly, he promised to
find good customers for the last plane in Victor´s possession, still parked in UAE and which
Victor dreams to get rid of in exchange for badly needed cash. As an aside, keep in mind that
Victor was totally broke even before his arrest in Bangkok and to sell his last aircraft was a big
deal for him.
Eventually Smulian lured Victor to Bangkok – to finally negotiate with the prospective buyers.
During the negotiations, according to the US government documents presented in his case,
Smulian introduced Victor to several people who allegedly looked Latin American and who
allegedly spoke Spanish. These people were alleged to be from a Colombian revolutionary
organization named FARC – which is basically a Marxist guerilla movement fighting the
capitalist government of Colombia for decades. The deal to sell the plane was held in the hotel
business-center. A few minutes after the meeting began, the Thai police and the American DEA
agents from the US local Embassy barged in and arrested everyone – Victor Bout, his “friend”
from Moscow (who was found to be an FSB colonel), and Andrew Smulian. Out of the three
only Victor was naturally arrested and detained. Victor’s FSB colonel friend was immediately
released, put on the first available flight and appeared in Moscow the next morning.
Andrew Smulian allegedly escaped (i.e. escaped from the custody of the Thai police) and
disappeared. Keep in mind, he allegedly escaped from a locked down hotel guarded by over 150
Thai commandos. Then, without anyone noticing his disappearance, he alleged flagged a taxi to
the airport, with his hands handcuffed behind his back. Once at the airport, he allegedly bought a
ticket with no money and no passport to the United States, the only country in the world that if
arrested, he would be looking at 30 years to life in prison. This is the American version of the
events. Mr. Andrew Smulian suddenly “appeared” in America and was arrested in New York for
being an alleged “co-conspirator” of Victor Bout. There is confirmed information that Andrew
Smulian has been turned to be a prosecution witness who would testify against his former friend.
Smulian is not in jail in America – he is in a “protective custody”.
What is your opinion of Bout’s two lawyers: Lak and Chamroen?
Lak has been my lawyer for many years and naturally, I know him very well. I am the one who
recommended him to Victor for his case in the first place. Lak was introduced to Victor on
March 7, 2008 when Victor was first brought to the police station, i.e. before he was first brought
to the court. When he was brought to the court Lak was there and the first defense statements –
both spoken and written – were made by Lak. Lak was also the one who managed to get back
Victor’s passport and all his personal belongings – mobile phones and Victor´s personal
computer, even though the Americans demanded these items to be transferred to the United
States. Lak managed to make a good deal with the local police to get all of these invaluable items
back almost immediately to the United States government’s chagrin and disbelief. Later Lak was
also working hard on Victor’s further defense in the criminal case and also on the extradition
case, as well as on Victor’s own complaint for illegal detention. However, thanks to clandestine
efforts of the Russian secret service, Lak was dismissed from the case and replaced with a new
lawyer – Chamroen.
Chamroen was a shill for the American DEA and was introduced to Victor through a long chain
of people who worked for the DEA as unofficial agents. But make no mistake – Chamroen,
being a 100% proven shill for the Americans, was introduced by none other than the Russian
secret service officials who were well aware of what they were doing: the Russians who
introduced Chamroen to Victor KNEW FOR SURE that he was the American shill and,
DESPITE this KNOWLEDGE, they still introduced him to Victor and highly recommended to
use his services. Chamroen was the one who resisted and blocked all positive attempts to defend
Victor and who conducted Victor’s defense in the extradition case in the most wrongful manner.
He managed to make Victor to technically lose a 100% winnable case. In addition, Chamroen
did his best to prevent what you called above “Bout’s camp” from submitting to the Thai court
documents that might clarify the ridiculousness of the US charges and to serve as a real defense
As you might sincerely expect, Chamroen was not cheap either – he cost Victor well over 100
thousand US dollars which is an absolutely fabulous amount of money by Thai standards. During
the time when lawyer’s work was important – i.e. during the time the court of first instance was
hearing witnesses and accepting documents – the case was under control of Chamroen. I was
able to re-introduce Lak back to the case by a strange trick: he was no longer a lawyer of Victor,
but a lawyer of Victor’s wife Alla, who submitted to the court an additional complaint against
the illegal detention of her husband that was joined with the main extradition case.
In this capacity, Lak managed to get back to the case at the last moment; however, it was too late
by then – the case was effectively lost by Chamroen, who intentionally failed to call right
witnesses for the defense and who sabotaged cross-questioning of the witnesses of the
prosecution. Despite being only Alla’s lawyer and not Victor’s, Lak, nonetheless, managed to
somehow turn this case into something more favorable in the very last moment: instead of
making Alla only a witness in the illegal detention’s case, he managed to make her the most
important witness in the extradition case, despite all efforts of Chamroen to the contrary.
Alla’s testimony was probably the most powerful evidence ever added to the extradition case,
thanks to Lak. Furthermore, Lak managed to object to the latest set of new “evidence” that the
Americans attempted to submit to the judge at the last moment, when the hearing of the case was
almost over. The Americans actually submitted the last set of new “evidence” under the silent
approval of Chamroen, but Lak managed to stand up and loudly voice his objections (despite
actually being a lawyer in a different case – i.e. technically having no right to do so) and thus the
most dangerous addition to the case by the Americans was not accepted by the Thai court. So,
you can make you own conclusions what is Lak and what is Chamroen. And eventually when
Victor lost the case and was about to be extradited to America, Chamroen simply disappeared
and it was Lak who managed to prevent Victor from being immediately extradited to the United
Just to clarify, did the jet actually arrive to Bangkok or did it turn back shortly after
taking off from the United States?
The actual jet with the armed US court marshals arrived, but, thanks to Lak, went back empty.
What you are saying is absolutely shocking. Not as much for the treason of both the
Russian government and Victor´s lawyer, but for the collective stupidity of people involved
in the case. Why on Earth didn´t you say something and how is it possible that Victor and
his wife didn’t realize what was being done to them? I am sorry, but this sounds utterly
For me it also sounds implausible and I could only wonder how could it happen that way. But,
taking into consideration purely psychological aspects of the problem and also the fact that
Victor and his wife are not seasoned criminals, but merely innocent people, it could be
explained. The problem is that Victor does not know that he is the one who allegedly “sold” the
missile that hit the Pentagon to the “terrorists”. It seems that only now, when he lost the case in
the Court of Appeal (as I told him would long time ago), he began to slowly realize what really
happened with him and who stood behind the entire affair with this frame-up. But before, he was
confident that he was winning the case because his vigilance was effectively lulled by the false
promises and by the irresponsible assurances of the Russian officials, which Victor, nonetheless,
took seriously. Just imagine yourself in his shoes. You are behind bars and you are being
constantly assured by officials from your country that everything is “OK” and everything is
“under control”, moreover, you wife also constantly conveys you similar messages from the
Russian officials in Moscow who promise the same things (don’t forget that while in Moscow
Alla Bout was always invited by high-ranking government- and secret service officials and the
mere fact that such “big guys” condescended to talk to her and, moreover, to assure her that
everything was allegedly “under control” created the desired effect). Just imagine yourself in
such a situation: would you doubt when the secret service officials and the government officials
promise you all help possible and they promise it on behalf of the president of the state and all of
it is being accompanied by corresponding public statements of the Foreign Ministry. Wouldn’t
such a performance blunt your vigilance too?
Victor and his wife had simply no reason to suspect the Russian officials in any wrongdoing in
those days. You must be a cynic to be able to suspect the Russian officials in this situation, but
Victor is simply too nice and too innocent for this. Furthermore, the Russians appointed to harm
Victor’s position in the Thai court were professionals from the secret service and they know their
job very well. They know how to make their lies sound plausible and convincing. It is difficult to
deal with this type of the professionals when you yourself are simply an innocent person who has
no criminal background, no previous convictions, not even encounters with the legal system
prior to this, and no experience with the inner workings of the secret service. When you are an
innocent person you simply can´t realize how dirty the actual world of the secret service is. Add
here that neither Victor, nor his wife are lawyers and therefore the ridiculous method of defense
that the Russian officials enforced on them might look quite “reasonable” for them and they
failed to notice the dirty game behind it.
You know more about this case than anyone else. USG knows how dangerous you are. So
does the Russian government. Have these governments tried to buy your silence or
Yes, they have. The Americans on several occasions tried to either threaten me with the prospect
of being arrested and charged with something or with some offers of cash. At first, they
promised me an undisclosed amount of money if I would help them to get Victor to America by
secretly harming his case in the court – in the same manner Chamroen did. When I refused, they
said that they could still pay me for doing nothing, as long as I withdrew from this case, stopped
visiting Victor in prison, stopped attending the court hearings and giving Victor and his wife
advise. I refused that as well.
But when it comes to the Russian Government, they did not dare to offer me any money or to try
to threaten me, because it would be just too dangerous for their own story. Don’t forget that
while the Americans were open enemies of Victor, the Russians were openly “Victor’s friends”,
so while the Americans could afford to offer money or to try to threaten someone who helps
Victor and it would look natural, the Russians could not afford doing so, because otherwise they
would betray themselves.
The Russians have never showed their dissatisfaction with my activities openly, they rather tried
to harm my reputation by spreading vicious rumors about my alleged “cooperating with the
Americans” and “Dimitri can not be trusted” and so on. In fact, these efforts yielded some result
in the initial stage of the case – at one point I noticed that Victor’s wife suddenly stopped
trusting me, and also as I have said that the Russians managed to get Lak dismissed and replaced
with a new lawyer based on the same thing.
How valuable is Victor Bout to the United States?
If you mean that Victor Bout is allegedly “valuable” to America as an alleged “Merchant of
Death” and a “Lord of War” you are dead wrong. Many people, who believe Western
propaganda, think that Victor Bout is allegedly wanted in America for his involvement with
illegal weapons trade as alleged by the Hollywood film, the book, and by hysterical Western
publications. It is not true at all. You have to understand that Victor has never sold any weapons,
whether legally or illegally, in Africa, in Asia or anywhere else. In his entire life he has never
sold even a single Makarov pistol or a single AK-47, not to mention large quantities of Sovietmade
or any other weapons. Yes, on several instances airlines controlled by Victor Bout and by
his brother Sergei Bout indeed transported weapons, munitions, and even armed troops, but the
problem is that these were NOT THEIR weapons, these were weapons of THEIR
CUSTOMERS. Moreover, all of such customers were LEGAL CUSTOMERS. Wherever
Victor’s or Serguei’s airlines transported weapons or armed troops it was ALWAYS
governmental troops and the weapons always belong to the governments! Not once, did Victor
Bout´s or his brother Serguei´s aircraft transported weapons of any illegal customers!
But people seem not to realize this obvious fact. Victor Bout can´t be turned into “an illegal
weapons trader” by the hysterical Western media. Only the court verdict could do this. But not
once during all these years has Victor Bout receive a summons to any court of law whereby
someone sued him for being an illegal weapons dealer. There was not even a single attempt by
any government, or by any public prosecutor, or by UN, or by any other organization, or by even
a private individual to sue Victor Bout for his being an alleged “Merchant of Death”.
Why not, you ask? The answer is very simple: because no solid evidence exists that could be
admissible in a court of law. The image of Victor Bout being an alleged “Merchant of Death” is
based exclusively on the Hollywood movie, on Douglas Farah’s book, and on the bogus “UN
report” concocted by a certain unscrupulous inspector, Johan Peleman. A number of Mr.
Peleman´s former associates are willing to come forward and testify in the court of law that in
every UN report, Victor Bout´s name was added to the final version of the report and that his
name was absent in every preliminary UN report on arms trafficking. You simply can’t sue
Victor Bout for being an illegal weapon trader based on the evidence compiled by the shameless
Johan Peleman or bring to court the movie “Lord of War” as a substitute for the evidence. That is
exactly why the Americans do not want Victor Bout for any illegal weapons trade as appears to
many people around the world. If they really wanted him for that they would have done it long
time ago. The evidence is simply not there.
The Americans wanted Victor for something else. And for this “something” his apparent
Hollywood-inspired image of the “Merchant of Death” was not enough due to this being legally
inadmissible in the American court of law. Certain REAL and PROVABLE charges must have
been created in order to get him arrested for real. And the American officials found nothing
better than to employ the DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) for that reason. Since the
DEA area of operations are drugs and drug dealers, their modus operandi is corresponding – to
plant drugs on a victim and thus, to get the victim arrested. The very same approach was used in
Victor Bout’s case: the DEA agent-provocateurs created a certain provocation that looked
perhaps “normal” for a typical drug-policeman, but ridiculous to anyone else. The DEA sent
their agent to meet Victor Bout. This agent, turned out to be Bout´s former friend, Andrew
Smulian, who offered him a deal. But, instead of planting drugs on Victor Bout, the DEA planted
bogus documents and falsified “intercepts” of alleged e-mail exchanges and alleged telephone
conversations claiming that Victor Bout allegedly: 1) had in his possession portable anti-aircraft
missiles; 2) was willing to sell them to FARC rebels in Columbia; 3) in doing so he was planning
of- and willing to participate in murdering (sic) the US citizens/US officials working in
Despite the fact that compared to the typical planting of real heroin on their clients the DEA
failed to plant any actual anti-aircraft missiles on Victor, this ridiculous case was judged by the
DEA superiors to be “solid” enough to be brought to court. And only after THIS provocation of
the DEA, the US officials dared, at last, to arrest Victor Bout and to pass this matter to the court
of law. Before that, they have simply nothing in their hands that would be admissible in the
court-room. Therefore we can not even talk about alleged former “criminal activities” of Victor
Bout in Africa or elsewhere in connection with his current case in the court. The current case is
purely about his alleged attempt to sell the alleged “portable anti-aircraft missiles” to FARC in
Columbia and nothing else besides that.
This is the official “open” part of the story. However, there is also an official but “secret” part of
the same story. Victor Bout is not really wanted in America for these absurd and non-existent
portable anti-aircraft missiles. This ridiculous frame-up could never be successfully won by the
US government in the US court. Victor, in reality, is wanted for something far more serious that
can not be made public and can not be discussed in the courtroom in any open proceedings. I
mean you can compare it with the case of the infamous nuclear bomber Timothy McVeigh who
was openly indicted of using the Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD, but in a form of the
Ryder truck loaded with cheap fertilizer) against US citizens, but whose case was strangely
conducted behind closed doors. The same thing is with Victor Bout’s case.
Of course, the US officials and especially those US officials responsible for legal matters are
apparently reasonable enough to realize that they would never be able to win the ridiculous case
against Victor based on the proceeds of the abovementioned DEA provocation primarily because
no actual anti-aircraft missile have ever been found and not even an attempt to find such missiles
has been made by the DEA.
Why do you think that is?
Because they knew that the entire story was invented and no missiles would be found anywhere.
That is why they did not even attempt to go after the missiles. The real cause of the extradition
attempt against Victor Bout is not these non-existent portable anti-aircraft missiles. The real
cause is that the US Government in collaboration with the Russian Government secretly blamed
an individual named “Victor Bout” for selling to the terrorists a Soviet-made “Granit” missile
that struck the Pentagon on 9/11. And THIS is the real truth behind Victor’s case. And THIS
secret part of the case the American legal experts plan to win in the US court behind closed
doors. Because it appears that the Russian FSB has secretly concocted some “plausible”
evidence that implicates Victor Bout in that alleged deal and the US officials appear to be
gullible enough to believe the Russian colleagues and to believe that such “evidence” would lead
to the successful conclusion of the still pending 9/11 Pentagon case. In addition, Victor is being
secretly accused of selling portable nuclear weapons – known as “mini-nukes” or “suite-case
nukes” to various terrorist organizations, ranging from the Columbian FARC to Osama bin
Laden´s Al-Qaeda. Apparently, several recent real and alleged mini-nuclear bombings are
secretly being blamed on Victor Bout. The most important of them is the infamous “El Nogal”
nuclear bombing in Bogotá that was presented to the uninitiated as a “car-bombing”, in which,
according to the US security officials, the same type of a mini-nuke was used as in the 1995
Dimitri, you are a former nuclear intelligence officer of the 12 Chief Directorate of the
Russian armed forces. Public Prosecutor’s August 26, 2009 appeal stated that BOUT
conspired to provide GUIDED BALLISTIC MISSILES to the FARC. Are they suggesting
that BOUT is involved in nuclear terrorism?
Yes. This is just a slip of the tongue. The Freudian syndrome. In the official paperwork of Victor
Bout’s case in the Thai court, as well as in the official (a/k/a “public”) part of the US extradition
request they do not talk about any “guided ballistic missile”. They talk about “portable antiaircraft
missiles” (that are small enough to be launched from one’s shoulder). However, behind
closed doors, the US officials tried to convince their Thai colleagues that while the anti-aircraft
missiles provocation against Victor Bout was indeed very crude and ridiculous, the real cause of
the extradition for which Victor is wanted are far more serious, but, unfortunately, can not be
disclosed to the general public or discussed in the court-room in open proceedings.
So, the US officials in order to convince the Thais to accept the extradition case despite total lack
of evidence and despite numerous violations of Thai law, had no choice but to reveal the “awful
truth” to at least some of the Thai officials. Therefore high-ranking Thai police and security
officials, as well as a select few amongst Thai public prosecutors, know very well that Victor is
wanted not for selling the small portable anti-aircraft missiles, but for selling the cruise missile
with an unexploded 500 kiloton thermo-nuclear warhead that hit the Pentagon on 9/11 and
narrowly missed incinerating the entire Washington D.C. thanks to its broken detonator.
But since Thailand is a non-missile and non-nuclear state, the Thais don’t see much difference
between a cruise missile and a ballistic missile, so the public prosecutor mistakenly believed that
the Pentagon was hit by a ballistic missile with a thermo-nuclear warhead, while in reality it was
hit by a cruise missile with a thermo-nuclear warhead. But it is forgivable for the Thais to make
such a mistake, because it is not really a big difference in this sense. However, there is a big
difference when you compare a portable shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missile that weighs just
a few kilograms with a tens-of-meters-long ballistic missile that weighs many tons. While it is
forgivable for a Thai public prosecutor (who is a military officer, by the way) to confuse the first
two, considering that he is Thai, it is not forgivable for him (considering that he is a military
officer) to mistake the second two with each other.
Shoulder-launched portable anti-aircraft missile.
Typical ballistic missile.
In the Security Council of Thailand there was a discussion that Bout is being blamed for the
entire Pentagon attack on 9/11 – for both the missile and its thermo-nuclear warhead.
Apparently, the public prosecutor picked up this idea from them and as a slip of the tongue,
when he composed his appeal, he accidentally mentioned the “guided ballistic missile” instead of
the “politically correct” “portable anti-aircraft missile(s)”.
To answer the second part of your question – yes, Victor Bout is apparently wanted for nothing
less then NUCLEAR TERRORISM. He is being secretly blamed for at least: 1) selling the
Soviet-made “Granit” missile with the half-megaton thermo-nuclear warhead to the terrorists
who later launched it against the Pentagon on 9/11; 2) selling at least 3 or more Soviet-made
mini-nukes known as “RA-115” and “RA-116” to terrorists prior to 9/11 (at least so it appears
from the “El-Mundo” newspaper’s article as of 16 of September, 2001, and also from John D.
Negroponte’s [the former director of the US National Intelligence] official communiqué released
right after Victor Bout’s arrest in Bangkok in March, 2008 – available here:
http://www.csis.org/media/csis/pubs/tnt_03-08.pdf ); and 3) selling of weapon-grade enriched
Uranium to terrorists – as appears from the actual course of actions against the FARC and
particularly against Raul Reyes’ group in the Ecuadorian jungle only 5 days before Victor was
actually lured to Bangkok to be arrested there.
For our readers’ benefit, can you explain the difference between ballistic missile with the
thermo-nuclear warhead and cruise missile with the thermo-nuclear warhead.
A ballistic missile is launched vertically and it travels with speeds comparable to the first cosmic
velocity well above the Earth atmosphere on a ballistic trajectory – meaning its engines bring the
ballistic missile into what we call “space” and then its warhead falls towards its target from
space in the same manner as would a meteorite. You can roughly compare a trajectory of a
ballistic missile with a trajectory of a football when a goalkeeper strikes it from his area into the
other half of the football pitch. A cruise missile is much slower when compared to the ballistic
missile – its speed is just sub-sonic or slightly super-sonic and a missile travels to its target (and
delivers its warhead to it) in the atmosphere – in the same manner as would do a typical jetfighter.
In the case of particularly the “Granit” missile which is very expensive and very
advanced, its speed is about 2.5 Mach while traveling in the cruise altitude and it is decreased to
only 1.5 Mach when the missile descends and sets itself to the final path of attack – that is
parallel to the ground (exactly as it was demonstrated in the actual 9/11 Pentagon strike). But
when it comes to the actual thermo-nuclear warhead there is no difference. You will not feel any
difference when a half-megaton thermo-nuclear warhead suddenly produces a blinding white
flash and in the next few milliseconds incinerates you with its intensive thermal radiation. It does
not matter if such a half-megaton warhead was delivered by a ballistic missile falling from space,
or by a horizontally flying cruise missile. The effects of the actual thermo-nuclear explosion and
the destruction caused by it will be undistinguishable.
Victor Bout’s name is often mentioned along with the alleged sale of X-55 missiles to Iran
and China. Can you tell us more?
This is a kind of “controlled leak of information” that was afforded on purpose in order to create
some “grounds” and so to convince some officials who are not entitled to know the full truth, but
who could be fed some half-truth. The story with the X-55 illegal sale was just a cover-up story
that was concocted to distract attention from the real culprit – the awful “Granit” missile. To talk
about the “Granit” missile that hit the Pentagon is TABOO. It is off limits. Only very few highranking
US security officials (as well as high-ranking security officials of Russia and of some
highly-trusted US allies) are entitled to know that it was the “Granit” missile. For the rest, it is
taboo to know this word. But many people know that it was the missile (and many also know
that it was a certain Russian- or Soviet-made missile) that hit the Pentagon. But the problem is
that those who know or suspect the awful truth are much more than those who are entitled to
know it in full detail. Therefore to feed the “half-truth” for those not entitled to know the full
truth, the story with the alleged X-55 has been concocted.
X-55 air-launched sub-sonic cruise missile (AS-15 "Kent" in NATO classification).
Secondly, even from the technical point of view the story with the X-55 can not be true – that
missile is not technically capable of penetrating 6 (six!) capital walls of the Pentagon as was
demonstrated in the 9/11 attack. Only one missile in the world – the “Granit” – could achieve
such a penetrating feat. That is to say that the Americans and the Russians together are trying
hard to cover up the real truth behind the Pentagon attack, while trying in the same time to
apprehend and to bring to justice someone [allegedly] responsible for the actual attack. Hence
the persecution against Victor Bout. Hence the ridiculous stories about the alleged illegal deal
with the X-55 missiles (that are also nuclear-capable, by the way – don’t miss this point: the fact
that X-55 missiles are nothing less than “nuclear-capable” is always being diligently mentioned
along with the claims that Victor Bout and his companions allegedly sold these missiles from
Ukraine to Iran).
I understand that the first question the DEA asked Bout during their interrogation of him
is the name of the cruise missile he had sold to Iran. Why would they ask him that?
Yes, it is true. The first question asked of Victor after his arrest was not about the ridiculous deal
with the non-existent shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles that were allegedly intended for the
Columbian FARC. The first question was about the alleged cruise missile Victor allegedly sold
to Iran. This was because those mid-ranking DEA operatives were low enough not to be entitled
to know the full awful truth – about the “Granit” cruise missile, but were fed by their superiors
the half-truth – about the alleged “X-55” cruise missile that was discussed in the previous
A great deal of effort has been made by mainstream US and European press to link Bout
with FARC and uranium. What do they have to do with Bout?
The US security officials have a double task actually. One: they have to close the case with the
missile that hit the Pentagon on 9/11. Two – they also have to close several cases where mininukes
were really or allegedly used in disguise of the so-called “suicide” and “non-suicide” “carbombings”.
The most important – the case of nuclear bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya
and Tanzania in 1998 on an anniversary of Hiroshima bombing, the 1996 Khobar Tower nuclear
bombing, the 1995 Oklahoma nuclear bombing, the 2002 Bali nuclear bombing, the 1993 first
nuclear bombing of the World Trade Center in New York, several recent nuclear bombings in
Iraq, Pakistan, Algeria and Saudi Arabia that were reported to the gullible plebs as “carbombings”,
and also the El-Nogal nuclear bombing in Bogotá in 2003, as well as the previous
nuclear bombing in Bogotá in November 1999, both blamed on the FARC. As not too many
specialists in nuclear weapons are available for consultation, it is possible to present to the lay
people a notion that it is allegedly possible to produce a self-made low-caliber nuclear bomb
made out of Uranium (while in reality all mini-nukes are made exclusively out of Plutonium and
have nothing to do with any Uranium).
Well, is it possible to produce a homemade low-caliber nuclear bomb?
Thanks to the general ignorance of the people (many security officials and high-ranking
politicians inclusive) in regard to the nuclear weapons, the abovementioned mistaken belief is
widespread: indeed many security officials and politicians sincerely believe that it is possible to
obtain 50 kg (single critical mass) of highly-enriched Uranium-235 on the black market and to
make a mini-nuke out of it. In reality it is impossible to make any “mini-nuke” out of Uranium
even in an industrial process, not to mention in the cottage industry, but many gullible folks
believe to the contrary.
An example of such gullibility. Representative Kurt Weldon tries to scare other members of the US Congress
with a hypothetical suitcase-nuke so-called “terrorists” are allegedly armed with. The actual design of the
shown hypothetical device is not workable from the technical point of view.
Therefore a few unscrupulous individuals who really stood behind those nuclear “car- and truckbombings”
shamelessly exploit such gullibility. In the particular case with the FARC group led
by Raul Reyes they planted on them almost 50 kg of weapon-grade Uranium-235 that was
hidden around Reyes’ camp in the Ecuadorian jungle, then they murdered Reyes and additionally
created some bogus computer files planted into Reyes’ computer where it was claimed that
Reyes and his group were allegedly responsible for the 2003 nuclear bombing in Bogotá and
were also seeking more weapon-grade Uranium. The gullible security officials who understand
little about the real nuclear weapons technology would not miss the point as was suggested –
when they encounter the 50 kg of REAL weapon-grade Uranium around Reyes’ camp while
knowing for sure that both – 1999- and 2003- bombings in Bogotá were indeed mini-nukes
bombings. However, this theater should not mislead serious people: both bombings in Bogotá, as
well as 1995 Oklahoma bombing and the rest of well-known and little-known nuclear “carbombings”
was made with mini-nukes made out of PLUTONIUM and NOT URANIUM, and so
the 50 kg of Uranium-235 planted to Reyes’ camp should not dupe any serious person into
When it comes to Victor Bout if you carefully review available public sources you will find out
that: 1) Victor Bout’s alleged connection with the FARC was mentioned in the same list of
“evidence” allegedly “found” in Reyes’ computer right next to Reyes’s attempt to buy 50 kg
(single critical mass enough to make one atomic bomb of Hiroshima yield) of weapon-grade
Uranium-235 and alleged Reyes’ responsibility for the El-Nogal “car-bombing” (that is known
to be nuclear to any and every security official); and 2) Alleged “international channels” by
which the alleged “portable anti-aircraft missiles” of Victor Bout were allegedly transported –
namely: Russia – Armenia – Romania – Denmark – Netherlands’ Antilles – Columbia strangely
coincides to the country with the alleged rout of transportation of the weapon-grade Uranium
that was obtained by Reyes and indeed found around his camp after Reyes was murdered by the
Americans on March 1, 2008 – just 5 days prior to Victor Bout’s arrest in Bangkok. Anyone is
welcome to make his own conclusions.
Add here that the US officials actually exploit two levels of the “truth” in regard to the WTC
demolition during 9/11 events. Just imagine that there are quite a lot of mid-ranking security
officials and politicians who are advanced enough to know that kerosene can not “melt steel”
into fluffy microscopic dust and that “ground zero” in pre-9/11 English language had no other
meaning than “a place of a nuclear explosion”.
“ground’ ze’ro” – the point on the surface of the earth or water directly below, directly above, or at which
an atomic or hydrogen bomb explodes.
Webster’s Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language (Edition 1989, printed in 1994,
ISBN 0-517-11888-2). The only definition of the “ground zero” term in the biggest pre-9/11 dictionary.
Therefore these types of people would not swallow the plebeian version of the “planes brought
down the towers 9/11 truth”. Some “higher” and more plausible version of the “truth” needed to
be invented to satisfy them. So according to the intermediate level of the 9/11 “truth” (that is
intended to satisfy the mid-ranking security officials and mid-ranking politicians both in
America and abroad), the Twin Towers of the WTC, as well as the building #7 of the WTC, were
demolished by 3 mini-nukes that allegedly belonged to Osama bin Laden’s operatives. You can
find a confirmation of what I mean in the article “Mi Hermano bin Laden”, published in the
Spanish daily, El-Mundo, on September 16, 2001.
However, once you claim that the WTC was demolished by the three Soviet mini-nukes
allegedly bought by Osama from Ukraine, then, being a responsible security official, you should
also find Russian or Ukrainian nationals who first stole these mini-nukes for the Soviet nuclear
arsenals and who actually sold such awful weapons to the terrorists. Isn’t’ it? Hence another
attempt of the Americans – to implicate Victor Bout into trading in mini-nukes and in weapongrade
nuclear materials, in addition to the missiles with half-megaton thermo-nuclear warheads
that usually fly around and strike pentagons. It appears that Victor Bout was made a scapegoat
just for everything that is nuclear. Add here is where the Americans began their unprecedented
persecution against Victor Bout only after 9/11 and in an apparent connection with 9/11. Read
the “nuclear” communiqué of John D. Negroponte (available here:
http://www.csis.org/media/csis/pubs/tnt_03-08.pdf ) that was released immediately after Victor’s
arrest in Bangkok in March 2008 and that was directly connected to his arrest and moreover,
entirely devoted to his arrest. And compare that communiqué by John D. Negroponte with the
abovementioned “El Mundo” article about the 3 mini-nukes bought by Osama from Ukraine and
allegedly used for destroying the three WTC buildings on 9/11 and surely you will not miss the
main point. There are two more additional moments that could clarify the alleged “nuclear”
connections of Victor Bout, FARC, and actual so-called “car-bombings” and “truck-bombings”
(spots of which are being strangely called by the strangest nuclear name “ground zero”). First of
them occurred soon after Victor Bout’s arrest.
About two weeks after his arrest there was a video published on YouTube showing Russia Today
footage titled “Merchant of Death denied bail in Bangkok”. As you know, anyone registered as a
YouTube user could post a comment under a video. Guess what was the very first comment
published by some alleged “Victor Bout’s friend” under that video? This is what the comment
said: “180 Compact Russian Nukes are missing, soon US will get a nuclear apocalypse up its
How do you like the comment? Or you prefer to believe in coincidences? In the world of
intelligence there is a saying: There are well made and badly made operations. Coincidences do
not exist. Especially when soon after this comment appeared, a real nuclear explosion occurred
in Dubai on March 26, 2008 – in the city where Victor Bout was kicked from and where he lost
all his former airline business.
Explosion of a mini-nuke in Al-Quoz, Dubai on March 26, 2008, accidentally captured by a CNN cameraman
(of course, as you might sincerely expect, this single explosion of an unprecedented yield was reported to
gullible plebs as “multiple explosions in an illegal fireworks warehouse – which nonetheless strangely
demanded the most urgent action by the local Civil Defense service and the immediate closure of all schools
You can see details of this nuclear explosion on YouTube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRws9eHvVgw or you can read (between the lines) here:
– please notice words such as “mushroom cloud” and “civil defense” in that article.
By the way – when I noticed that YouTube provocation and compared it against the mini-nuke’s
explosion in Dubai a few days later I immediately complained about this to the security official
at the local Russian Embassy in Bangkok. And what do you think happened? The next day the
provocative comment/promise about “180 stolen mini-nukes” and the “nuclear apocalypse” was
removed from YouTube.
Luckily, I made a screenshot of the YouTube web page with that comment still there, so I still
Below: the screenshot made from YouTube web page with the first “seditious” comment about “stolen
Soviet mini-nukes” and the promised “nuclear apocalypse” still there.
Oh, I almost forgot it. Since I was involved with Victor Bout’s legal defense here in Bangkok
right from the next day following his arrest – i.e. from March 7, 2008, I understandably attracted
a lot of attention from the US side. The local DEA officer – Mr. Derek Odney, responsible for
Victor’s apprehension in Bangkok on March 6, 2008, invited me to drink coffee and to “discuss
something” around mid-April. Since I was curious to know what they would ask me about Victor
and also perhaps I could have a chance to ask them something that would clarify the mystery of
the case I agreed “to drink coffee”.
Derek showed up with someone who appeared to be from another department, perhaps from the
US military intelligence or may be from the CIA. The conversation began in a roundabout way
and with no mention of Victor Bout. They asked me to help the DEA to catch certain drug
dealers in Bangkok. On the surface it may seem logical, considering what the DEA does, but
certainly not normal, considering the actual circumstances – I was helping Victor Bout and his
case had nothing to do with drugs. Anyway, this discussion about the drugs and drug-dealers
slowly moved on to something different: Derek´s companion asked me if I knew anything about
a black market nuclear materials, particularly enriched Uranium and how much, in my opinion,
such weapon-grade Uranium could cost on such a black market. Out of politeness I expressed
my humble opinion on the subject, adding that it is only my humble opinion, but I don’t know
the exact figures, because I am not involved in illegal trade in nuclear materials.
In turn, I asked them if they were asking me this question because of highly-enriched Uranium
that was found around Reyes’ camp in the Ecuadorian jungle? They told me that yes, they
wanted to know the answer to that question for exactly that reason, because the US Government
took that matter very seriously. The most laughable was that no alleged “portable anti-aircraft
missiles” were mentioned during that conversation, but only the FARC Uranium alone (and
neither any “portable anti-aircraft missiles” in connection with Victor Bout were mentioned in
Reyes’ computer, but only the weapon-grade Uranium purchase deal and the FARC
responsibility for the nuclear “car-“bombings…) This was my first conversation with Mr. Derek
Let´s fast forward to today, Dimitri. Where is Victor at and what´s left for him as far as his
Victor Bout is still in Bangkok, to be more exact in Nonthaburi province (on the outskirts of
Bangkok) inside the high-security Bangkwang prison, known to many people as “Bangkok
Hilton” thanks to the famous movie of the same name. He was transferred there from the
Bangkok Remand Prison on August 20, the day his court verdict which ordered the extradition
To answer the second part of your question is not so easy. Several defense options are available
but I would prefer not to disclose them publicly, because the Americans will read this interview
with great interest and they might take certain countermeasures. But surely something is pending
when it comes to the legal means to defend Victor Bout. His lawyer, Lak, is still there and he is
working hard on his defense. Despite Victor´s extradition case appearing to be “final” after the
Appeals’ Court verdict, it is not so “final” in reality. Many things can still be done, God willing.
* * *
Unfortunately, I was wrong. This interview was made when Victor was still in Thailand while he still had
two pending cases with the Thai criminal court. One of his cases was on a re-trial process which was not
yet finished, and another case was still in an appeal process. Thus, technically, the Thai Government had
no right to extradite him – the extradition could only have been executed when both of Victor’s cases in
the local court have become final. However, the Thai Government was so eager to please their American
counterpart that it virtually ordered Victor’s kidnapping from the Thai prison in contravention of the proper
judicial procedure: without informing their own court of law, without informing the local Russian Embassy,
without informing Victor’s lawyer and without informing Victor’s relatives the Thai Government suddenly
published the Cabinet’s decision to extradite him to America. By the time the decision was announced by
radio and Victor’s lawyer rushed to the criminal court to file a complaint in order to prevent the illegal
action of the government, Victor Bout has been already loaded into the special jet bound to New York…
Victor Bout arrives to New York surrounded by brave DEA agents. Derek Odney (a bold man) is on the left.
Victor was not allowed to take with him to America any of his personal belongings, nor even his telephone
book (with telephone number of his lawyers, friends and family members), nor a pen, nor a toothbrush,
nor any underwear, nor even pocket money. He was taken to the death row, stripped completely naked,
ordered to put on a dirty black tracksuit (the tracksuit was perhaps taken from some previously executed
prisoner of the “Bangkok Hilton” and has never been washed since then) and no shoes, and in this attire
he was flown to the United States of America – the most “democratic” country in the world, which is proud
of its justice… Thanks to his free American lawyer (appointed by the court in New York), who gave him
100 dollars, Victor managed to buy a toothbrush and other basic necessities in the New York prison.
Now I could only express my sincere hope that the DEA / FBI will not be able to swallow Victor. I hope
they will choke on him. And perhaps they will choke to death. The entire hunting session on the so-called
“Merchant of Death” by the “brave” DEA’s guys and gals (who live in 5-stars hotels and travel exclusively
by the 1st class) cost the American taxpayer well over 50 millions US dollars and I wish the American
taxpayer will never forgive those folks parasitizing on the 9/11 tragedy this luxurious expenditure.
But in any case I would like to call on everyone who reads these lines to provide any help possible to this
innocent man. The man who is merely a victim of the so-called “new world order” and whose only crime is
to be an enterprising Russian who dared to do a business on the international scale and to compete with
Westerners. (In reality Victor Bout is a German whose family lived in Russia for a long time and in Russia
we call these kind of people “Germans”, and so it is written in their official documents: “Germans”, but the
New World Order guys do not care about this – they want him to be a “bad Russian”, because they need
“bad Russians”– the story with “bad Arabs” who collapse steel skyscrapers with kerosene is exhausted…)
Victor’s current address in the American prison: “Victor A Bout, Registration Number 91641-054, MCC
NEW YORK METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER 150 PARK ROW NEW YORK, NY 10007”.
Alternatively contact me, Dimitri Khalezov, and I will put you in contact with Victor or his wife if necessary.
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